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Krishnamurti and Blavatsky

Jean Overton Fuller

This article rises out of a correspondence. In connection with the biography of Madame Blavatsky I have just finished writing, Mr. Leslie Price and I had been exchanging letters, when he wrote to me, "One of the problems associated with the Mahatmas, and on which I would welcome your views, is what happened to the Brotherhood in question? They may have disintegrated or splintered; or they may have found the T.S. unworthy of further attention and broken with it".

I replied, "I am sure the Masters are still with us. At a certain moment, plainly, they decided to desist from giving evidence of themselves as Mahatmas, either by precipitating letters or appearing in propria persona. They must have seen from the world's reaction that this did no good... As regards the T.S., my belief is that it ceased to be regarded by the Masters as the spearhead of their work from the moment Krishnamurti left it. Contrary to what some declare, he has never denied the Masters. What he saw as repellent was the striving for advancement in initiations, the vulgarity in the idea of seeking to become a Master, i.e. better than other people, the liability to deception, also, that comes from reliance upon information given upon authority, in some cases specious, I am sure they still support him, but, in conformity with his way of doing things, just stepped back a little, out of visibility."

Mary Lutyens quotes a letter written by Krishnamurti to her mother in 1934, "I have never denied being the W.T. (World Teacher). You know, mum, I have never denied it. I have only said that it does not matter who or what I am..." (1) The point is, that if the listener does not see something that is being said as true, the speaker's telling him he is the World Teacher will not convince him. To assert spiritual authority or status does a kind of violence to relationship. Either the claim is rejected, or, if it is accepted, the other is reduced to a state of stunned suspension [21] of his own faculties, in which he merely gapes, and accepts things said because of who it is that says them, sometimes merely echoing phrases verbally, without seeing what the speaker is meaning. Thus there is no relationship, and so no communion. If the speaker does not claim to be anybody in particular, then his words have only the weight of the natural sense in them, the listener is not stunned and so his faculties have a better chance to work. As one reads through Krishnamurti's talks from the beginning, one notices that when listeners have put questions about Masters, he has met them with questions to the questioner, such as why does he want to meet a Master? To become a Master? What does he think a Master is? Has he the idea of obtaining some power, some superiority to others? So, the questioner is made to look at the motivation of his question. Krishnamurti has never made a secret of his attraction to the Buddha. He has sometimes spoken of "otherness", meaning a presence, not his own, sensed suddenly in the room. He mentioned to a friend once, waking with the feeling the room was full of "eminent holy beings." (2) He admits their existence, then, but avoids stressing it, because he does not want to create an image of authority. Also, he does not like the idea of a measurable progress from the past towards the future, steps to spirituality, occupying time, gradualness.

Sometimes he destroys Theosophical imagery. One of his earliest writings was called 'The Path', in which it was very graphically imaged. Now he says there is no path. "Truth is a pathless land" . The path is a very ancient image. In The Voice of the Silence, Blavatsky's rendering of certain stanzas inscribed on tablets in the temple of the monastery of Trashi Lhunpo, there is continual talk of paths. Yet his dismissal of the image should not shock. Nobody ever imagined there was some physical path which had to be found and followed. Krishnamurti now drops this image probably because it implies the idea of gradualness, progress [22] from one stage to another, measure and method. All these things are, to him, unreal - in relation to spiritual understanding, that is, for they have real application to the acquirement of skills, such as to learn a foreign language, drive a car or play a piano. Here, accumulation of experience, and practice, have their place. The concept of method, of procedure, however, breaks down when applied to what is spiritual. There is no method by which one gradually prepares oneself to understanding something. One understands something or one does not. It is a matter of seeing. One does not see... then suddenly one sees. It happens in the present.

All one can do to help this happen is remove what is preventing it. One will not see if one's view is blocked by cumber. Hence his insistence upon the negative approach. One cannot say, "I will make myself more spiritual. I will develop vision". But one can see what is false in one's life, in one's relationships, in one's ostentatious motivations. The perception of a falsity is the perception of a truth. When the false is seen as false, the seeing is the seeing of truth. A word of caution is needed here; he does not mean retrospection. Going back into the past, to analyse it, separates one from the present, and it is only in the present one can act. What he refers to is the catching of the motivation on the wing. Clarity comes as an explosion. The seeing is action.

One cannot build towards it.

There is no road to it.

Explaining his negative approach in one of his talks given in India, where the heat can be stifling, he said, "One cannot invite the breeze - but one can leave the window open".

And clean, of course.

Mr. Price, when he came to see me, said, "But Krishnamurti and Blavatsky don't say exactly the same things..." [23]

They do not say things which put what each other says out of court. The things they set out for one to think are different but are not mutually preclusive. Madame Blavatsky, with her Cancerian Ascendant, loved the past, with its glamour and mystery. When stating a truth, she liked to tee able to support it with the citation of some ancient text. Her mind had the Cancerian fecundity in poetic images. She had the Cancerian love of magic. Krishnamurti never mentions her writings. Most likely he has never read them. They would not hold anything for him. When he reads, it tends to be for entertainment. This is probably because, as regards deep things, he prefers to keep his mind fresh, unencumbered by traditions of the past.

Truth may be one, but the manner of affording glimpses into it can be coloured by personality, and wherever a revelation comes from, there is a relation between its expression and the revealer. Krishnamurti's Ascendant is Aquarian. Aquarius is the water- carrier not water. Cancer is a water sign. Aquarius is an air sign. Cancer feels for mystery. Aquarius likes clarity. It is the sign of electricity and the lightening flash. Of all the signs, it has the least interest in tradition.

Signs in opposition in the zodiac tend to have something in common, because they deal in the same terms, from opposite points of view. With dancing partners, one goes back as the other goes forward 9 yet they are dancing together. Hence, astrologers have said the most awkward aspect is not the Opposition (180 degrees) but the Inconjunct (150). Signs in Inconjunct seem to have non- relationships. They form neither a harmony, disharmony nor yet, polarisation. Now, all of the twelve signs of the circle must be related in some way, but where the Inconjunct is concerned, a little more attention may be required in order to modulate from one key into the other. There is certainly a modulation that needs to be made from The Secret Doctrine to the Krishnamurti talks. [24]

The late Mrs. Hilda Jaffa of the Astrological Lodge did a statistic on window-cleaners, and found the sign that came up most often in their horoscopes was Aquarius. She supposed it was because they spent so much of their lives high up, in the open air, also because windows are things one sees through.

Krishnamurti is a window-cleaner.

(1) Krishnamurti, the Years of Fulfillment, Mary Lutyens, (Murrey, 1983), p. 30
(2) Ibid., p. 180

Source

Originally published in Theosophical History 1/2 (April 1985): 20-24. Reproduced with the permission of the author.


 

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