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Krishnamurti: A Problem
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From: The Initiate in
the Dark Cycle
By his Pupil [Cyril Scott]
(London: Routledge & Keegan, 1932)
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Chapter V
Krishnamurti: A Problem
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Oh Krishnaji! You led us all to believe in 1926
that we were seeking hapiness, in 1927 liberation,
in 1928 truth, and in 1929 uniqueness; in 1930
you shattered our beliefs in reincarnation, masters,
saviours, and now you speak of the removal of
the "I," of the ego, of a state without
birth and death, of life which seems to have a
meaning to you, but not to us. And yet you speak
of attainment, of a realization, of a culmination.
Has your realization, then, a progressive character--progressive
in the sense that you have much to say and your
message is now passing through a state of incompleteness
to completeness?
--"Star Bulletin," September,
1931.
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CHAPTER V
KRISHNAMURTI: A PROBLEM
VIOLA had gone to Krishnamurti's lecture and
we were a male quartet: Toni Bland, Lyall Herbert,
Arkwright and myself. We had lingered over the
dinner-table, and having adjourned to the drawing-room,
had induced Lyall to play us a little Scriabine.
He had just got up from the piano when Viola returned.
We were of course anxious to know what she had
thought of the lecture, and I jestingly inquired
if she'd been converted and become a devotee.
She laughed. " No; I'm only an interested
spectator. The female devotees seem to be either
those who yearn to be a mother to Him, or, enamoured
of his eyebrows and exquisite appearance, who
yearn to be something quite different... Then
there's the vast host of Indeterminates, trying,
in spite
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of inadequate mental equipment, to grapple with
the negativeness of his teaching."
"Do you really find it so negative?"
Lyall asked.
"Well, for me, he's simply the Apostle of
Negation," she replied, "just as Chris
was the Apostle of Joy.... Besides, he's such
a contradiction: tells people they must think
for themselves--splendid, that, up to a point--and
then bars all the avenues of individual thought.
We're told we can't reach the goal through worship
or art or beauty or help from the Masters or ceremonies:
why on earth not! Krishnamurti may not need any
of these things himself, but what about others!
Surely if they choose to seek God through beauty
or art or whatever it may be ...? Why, all the
old religions and philosophies (which he doesn't
seem to have studied, by the way, or if he has,
he's chucked them into the dust-bin with the rest)...
every teacher from time immemorial has implied
that by whatever path Man tries to reach God,
he gets to Him! But Krishnamurti not only destroys
the path --or paths--but the goal itself. To begin
with, you're not to use the word 'God' ...
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Krishnamurti's Ultimate Reality is just a lazy
abstraction, sometimes called 'Life,' sometimes
'Truth,' but never conveying any Sense of wonder
or delight."
"Ah, you dear ladies," said Arkwright,
smiling, "you never were dead struck on abstractions--it's
part of your psychology. What you want is a nice
personal fatherly God on a nice fat gold cloud,
who'll hand out gallons of rich juicy comfort
whenever you shout for it."
"That's not what I want at all!" she
laughed. "But you must admit that whether
you're a Dualist and want a God outside and beyond
yourself to reach out to and worship, or you're
a Monist and want to realize yourself as the One
Self, reason, let alone the heart, demands a goal
that's attractive, to say the least! You
may think it's cowardly and feeble not to want
to stand on a bleak mountain-top, stripped of
everything, in an icy gale, while you contemplate
a void--but I ask is it worth while? If this 'Completeness'
of Krishnamurti's is meant to be synonymous with
happiness, what a pallid, puny thing it seems
beside the joy that Chris spoke of--and lived...
She didn't
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anthropomorphize God, she put the idea of Him
beyond the farthest reach of thought, but only
to show that all beauty and magic and mystery
were just glimpses or reflections of a Reality
too marvelous to be contemplated unveiled ...
The Master who spoke through her revealed Him
as the transcendent Loveliness and Lovableness
for which everybody yearns, whether he's conscious
of it or not, each in his own terms--and Who responds
to each in the terms of his own need. He said:
Human intellect can no more understand the
Absolute, than the insect under the floor can
understand a Master, but this you may know, that
He is all Love ... and that Love is the reason
for the universe, the reason for your very existence!"
" But Krishnamurti doesn't deny love--at
one time he was always talking about it,"
I objected.
"Ah, at one time, perhaps--but not so much
now; and even when he does, the love he speaks
of strikes one as so impersonal and vague as to
be almost afraid of itself. What a different sort
of feeling one had when Master Koot Hoomi said:
The love that I feel for each one of you, that
is God.... and again:
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Love and Truth are the keynotes of the universe
--and Love is Truth and Truth is Love ...
that's not much like Krishnamurti's: Truth
can bring no comfort.... How can you reconcile
the two points of view!"
"Do you particularly want to!" asked
Lyall.
"I don't, personally, Fifty Krishnamurtis
couldn't biff the idea of the Masters that we
got from Chris, and before that from J. M. H.
... I'm thinking of the poor wretches who were
trained on similar lines, perhaps, but may not
have quite our bulldog tenacity for holding on.
They've been taught, too, that the Masters are
their Elder Bothers, lovingly trying to guide
them into 'union with the Infinite at ever higher
and higher levels ...' as old Leadbeater says
somewhere. And then Krishnamurti comes along and
tells them that Masters are only crutches; so
they chuck away their crutches, totter a few steps,
perhaps, in search of his 'Liberation,' and fall
to the ground. Does he offer to give them wings
instead of crutches, or even to show them how
to grow wings for themselves! Not he! He isn't
enough of a psychologist to tell them where to
begin. He'd prescribe
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the same recipe all round: What I have done
you can do. ... no account taken of individual
limitations of Karma or grades of evolution or
anything. Chris--she knew that no two people can
he handled the same way; that was the secret of
her success with individuals; she never
handed out castor oil indiscriminately to the
whole class." We had to laugh, but Viola,
pacing up and down the room in her boyish fashion,
was full of the indignant sympathy which the lecture
seemed to have aroused in her.
"It's all very well to laugh. ... I daresay
it is good to force people to stand on
their own feet and do their own thinking,"
she pursued. "But how many of those who've
listened for so long to the voice of Authority
booming at them from the T.S.(1) are capable either
of individualistic thought, or have got the discrimination
to sift the grain from the chaff in Krishnamurti's
teaching! You should have seen the expressions
on some of their faces at the lecture, as they
tried so hard and so conscientiously to follow
the World Teacher to his austere heights of glory,
and found--at any rate if they were honest with
1 T.S. stands for Theosophical
Society.
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themselves--that there wasn't any glory there
for them--only emptiness! You could see
from the baffled look in their eyes the hell they're
going through--especially those women. He's taken
everything from them-reincarnation, survival,
meetings with their loved ones after death, the
Masters' help and compassion--why, the whole spiritual
structure of their lives--and given them nothing
in return but a nebulous state of consciousness
that doesn't make the slightest appeal to the
heart or the imagination."
"I can't entirely agree---" I began,
but she ignored me, and continued to champion
those whom she evidently considered were the greatest
sufferers.
"They're floundering hopelessly in the void,
poor things! Too docile and obedient to deny Krishnamurti
completely and stand for the old ideals; quite
unable to grasp what he's driving at and get any
real satisfaction from it; and lacking the initiative
to strike out on lines of their own.... They're
wondering if what they were taught before was
only a lovely fiction: that's the spectre they
have to face in their sleepless nights, and a
pretty ghastly one it is, too. Nothing
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more devastating than to tell a person that what
he believes isn't true. Even a man who only believes
in himself goes to bits when that belief's
shaken
. If the early teaching was a fiction,
what are they to do now! Krishnamurti has destroyed
all their old landmarks; if they venture to use
or to think in any of the old terms, they get
rapped over the knuckles. They cry to him in the
hope that he's still got something up his sleeve--something
still unexpressed in his teaching that'll allow
them to reconcile the old with the new--and they're
frustrated at every turn: what's to become of
them?"
"Someone else will probably turn up,"
suggested Bland, "who'll try and restore
their belief in the Masters."
"It may be too late: perhaps they won't
be able to respond. They'll be too battered, some
of them too old. You can't shatter the beliefs
of years without damaging the very power of belief
in itself--I feel pretty certain of that. Sometimes
I wonder if even the Masters Themselves don't
feel a little sad when they see the gulf Krishnamurti
has put between Them and those whose footsteps
They were once able to guide. ... And now,"
she
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added with a sudden change of mood, "having
talked your heads off, I'm for sandwich!"
She waved to us ironically and went out.
" I guess friend Krishnamurti's tickled
her up some," said our American, sympathetic
though a trifle amused.
"So it would seem," I assented.
"Well, when you've just lost your Guru and
your dearest friend," Herbert protested,
"it's not exactly the moment to go and hear
Krishnamurti belittling both Masters and personal
survival."
"Yes, but what none of you realize,"
Toni said gravely, "is that although Viola
may have lost her clairvoyant facilities, she's
very mediumistic. Mentally sensitive to surrounding
conditions, she is impelled to express the collective
thoughts and feelings of those unfortunate women
who cannot or dare not express them for themselves."
"Good for you!" Arkwright concurred.
"Personally, I've always taken a particular
interest in Krishnamurti's development,"
I remarked. "That he should have started
as a Dualist and then become a Vedantic Monist
or Advaitist, is most intriguing. Pity he's
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watered down his Advaitism, though, instead of
going the whole hog. Merely to tell us that Truth
is happiness, or even eternal happiness, isn't
enough. The real Advaitist says that Truth is
the Absolute-Existence-Knowledge Bliss---"
" Ah, if he'd said that," Toni broke
in, "the whole impression might have been
very different. But to say, for instance, Truth
can bring no comfort without at once qualifying
the statement, is simply to upset people and leave
them dissatisfied. He who knows himself to be
that Absolute Bliss doesn't need consolation,
and that's the whole point!"
"I wonder," mused Lyall, "If he
realizes it is Advaita he's teaching!"
"Search Me!" from Arkwright.
"He seems so afraid," Lyall elaborated,
"of people finding any point of contact between
his philosophy and their own beliefs, that
I'm a bit doubtful."
"Whether he realizes it or not, the fact
remains," I said. "as I can easily prove
to you." I took up the little pile of Star
Bulletins I had collected, and chanced to alight
on some of the very sentiments which
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had roused my wife's indignation. "Listen
to this:
"Spiritual attainment does not lie in the
following of another, whether leader or teacher
or prophet ... That following of another is a
weakness ... A mediator is but a crutch ... Truth
does not lie in distinctions, in societies, in
orders, in churches....
* * * * *
" As I am free of traditions and beliefs,
I would set other people free from those beliefs,
dogmas, creeds and religions which condition life."
I went to my bookshelf and got down Vivekananda's
lectures on Vedanta, and read out:
"Nothing makes us so moral as Monism ...
When we have nobody to grope towards, nobody to
lay all our blame upon, when we have neither a
devil nor a personal God to lay all our evils
upon--then we shall rise to our highest and best.
... Pilgrimages and books and the Vedas and ceremonials
can never bind me... I am the Blissful One."
I turned again to the yellow magazines, and read
further passages:
" ... The 'I' is the limitation of separateness
... by continual concentrated effort, every moment
of the day, you must remove this wall of limitation,
and thus establish yourself in true freedom of
consciousness. That is immortality
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That is to be beyond time and space, beyond
birth and death ...."
I reverted once more to Vivekananda:
"Hear day and night that you are that soul
(or One Self), Repeat it till it enters into your
very veins. ... let the whole body be full of
that one idea--'I am the birthless, deathless,
blissful, ever glorious Soul.' "
After that we compared numerous other passages.
For instance : I maintain that man is fundamentally
free (Krishnamurti). We are free-this idea
of bondage is hut an illusion (Vivekananda).
Happiness lies in the Extreme of detachment
(Krishnamurti). Be not attached (Vivekananda).
And so on and so forth.
" Well, I guess that's pretty conclusive."
said Arkwright at length.
" The trouble is," Lyall contributed,
"that Krishnamurti hasn't the knack of really
getting his ideas across. He may know what he
means himself, but doesn't convey it to others,
I'm afraid only people who've been properly taught
by a Guru beforehand can really grasp what he's
talking about."
"Precisely," said Arkwright. "The
rest of them comprehend the knocking-down process
right enough, but when it comes to what
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he's handing them out in place of it, it's a
very different proposition. We know what
he's after because we've studied Advaita with
J. M. H."
" Who also said--don't forget," I insisted,
"that it was not a suitable philosophy to
be broadcast as the only means to Liberation."
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