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                  | The Truth about Krishnamurti |   
                  | From: The Initiate in 
                      the Dark CycleBy his Pupil [Cyril Scott]
 (London: Routledge & Keegan, 1932)
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                  | Chapter XIThe Truth about Krishnamurti
  
                      
                        
                           
                            | 132 Question:  You say that while Truth may 
                                be approached solely by individual effort, work 
                                on the other hand must be collective organized 
                                by authority.  The Occult Brotherhood of 
                                Adepts is a group of men who, like yourself, have 
                                liberated themselves from all limitations and 
                                have attained to Truth; but like yourself have 
                                undertaken certain self-chosen work in advancing 
                                the general welfare of the world.  They inspire 
                                great reforms in every department of life and 
                                work by methods of which very little is known, 
                                but which are immensely effective.  Their 
                                co-operation is complete, their organization perfect, 
                                they recognize an absolute ruler--but in life 
                                they are entirely free.  Such a mode of living 
                                seems to be the logical outcome of your teaching.  
                                Do you deny that this is so?  Or does your 
                                challenge apply rather to the popular confusion 
                                of Truth with organized work for the service of 
                                humanity? Krishnamurti:  First of all you must understand 
                                what I mean by collective and organized work.  
                                You state that there is an occult brotherhood 
                                which organizes work for humanity for advancing 
                                the welfare of the world.  To assume that 
                                there are those who have knowledge, who have realized 
                                Truth, and because of that realization use methods 
                                of which, as is said, very little is known, choosing 
                                special agents and messengers to do their work 
                                and inspiring worthy organizations-to me this 
                                assumption is based upon an illusion, leading 
                                to exploitation of man for his "good".... --"Star Bulletin," 
                                September, 1931. 
                                 
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                            | 133 CHAPTER XI THE TRUTH ABOUT 
                                KRISHNAMURTI A CONCERT of innumerable birds woke me up next 
                                morning, and I looked out of my window on to a 
                                blaze of daffodils, sparkling with dewdrops in 
                                the sun. But if I was an early riser, Sir Thomas 
                                had outdone me, for I caught sight of him, in 
                                his skull-cap as usual, wandering down one of 
                                the paths which skirted a large flower-bed. Occasionally 
                                he would bend down to examine one or other of 
                                the plants, or to caress a big dog which sedately 
                                walked beside him. Presently he was joined by 
                                his niece, who gave him a kiss, in response to 
                                which he affectionately patted her cheek; then 
                                they strolled down the path together, round a 
                                bend and out of sight. There was still an hour and a half till breakfast, 
                                so I dressed leisurely, and, following my host's 
                                example, wandered forth into the garden. I felt 
                                so drawn to the old gentleman 
                                 
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                            | 134 that I hoped I should meet him. At the same time, 
                                I was chary of intruding on his privacy. But in 
                                any case I was to be disappointed, for I did not 
                                see him again till lunch-time. That Lunch was a memorable occasion. There were 
                                only four of us present-Sir Thomas, J.M.H., myself 
                                and one of the other men. The latter was a few 
                                minutes late, and came in when the rest of us 
                                were already seated. In his hand was Krishnamurti's 
                                Star Bulletin. He opened it, then handed 
                                it to Sir Thomas, indicating a certain passage. 
                                The old gentleman read it, vouchsafed no comment, 
                                beyond his usual non-committal "Tut, tut..." 
                                and passed it on to J.M.H., who glanced at it, 
                                smiled significantly at Sir Thomas, then put it 
                                aside. But I was not going to let such an opportunity 
                                slip. At last I might be in the position to hear 
                                something really authoritative on the vexed question 
                                of Krishnamurti. "The Star Bulletin. ... I take it myself. 
                                But as you see" I added, smiling, "I 
                                still believe in Masters." "I'm glad somebody does," Sir Thomas 
                                remarked with good-natured irony; "dear, 
                                dear, if Krishnamurti's ideas were universally 
                                 
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                            | 135 accepted, some of us might as well take our departure 
                                to other planets." I instantly pricked up my ears and glanced at 
                                J.M.H., who only said in an undertone: "Many 
                                a true word--'' leaving me mentally to complete 
                                the saying. "Then I take it, Sir Thomas," I ventured 
                                to ask, "you don't altogether approve of 
                                Krishnamurti's methods?" "Unfortunately he has no proper methods 
                                since he took the Arhat initiation, and ceased 
                                to be the medium for the Lord Maitreya.(1)  
                                Better if he had retired from public life to meditate 
                                in seclusion, as Arhats did in bygone days." "I'm a bit hazy about that Arhat initiation," 
                                I whispered to the man beside me. "It's the one in which the Master withdraws 
                                all guidance from His pupil, who may have to negotiate 
                                the most difficult problems without being allowed 
                                to ask any questions." he 1 The Lord Maitreya is He 
                                who, every two thousand years, fulfils his office 
                                of World-Teacher by overshadowing a specially 
                                prepared medium in order to give forth a new Teaching 
                                suitable for the future development of mankind. 
                                The last time, two thousand years ago, Jesus became 
                                His medium and yielded himself up for the purpose 
                                at the age of thirty. A similar destiny was anticipated 
                                for Krishnamurti. 
                                 
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                            | 136 explained; "he has to rely entirely on his 
                                own judgment, and if he makes mistakes, must bear 
                                the consequences." "And so what did Krishnamurti do!" 
                                my host interpolated, obviously having heard. 
                                "Like the proverbial manservant who knows 
                                he's about to be given notice, he gave notice 
                                first. In other words, he cut himself adrift from 
                                the White Lodge, and repudiated all of us." "And unfortunately," J. M. H, added, 
                                "he induced others far below him in spiritual 
                                evolution to do likewise. Also instead of giving 
                                forth the new Teaching so badly needed, he escaped 
                                from the responsibilities of his office as prophet 
                                and teacher by reverting to a past incarnation, 
                                and an ancient philosophy of his own race with 
                                which you are familiar, but which is useless for 
                                the Western World in the present Cycle." "Then we were right!" I exclaimed. 
                                "It Is Advaita he is teaching?" He nodded. "But those to whom he speaks think they 
                                are receiving a new message, and as such it carries 
                                undue weight." Sir Thomas contributed. "The 
                                message he should have 
                                 
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                            | 137 delivered, he has failed to deliver--or only 
                                partly delivered. Nothing about Art--no plans 
                                for the new sub-race--educational schemes dropped--and 
                                in place of all this: Advaita, a philosophy for 
                                chelas, and one of the most easily misunderstood 
                                paths to liberation." "Then are we to assume," I hazarded, 
                                "that Krishnamurti's mission has been a complete 
                                failure!" "Friend," said the old gentleman, "you 
                                ask many questions, to what use will you put the 
                                answers if we give them to you?" It was on 
                                the tip of my tongue to apologize, but instead 
                                I felt impelled to speak what was in my mind. 
                                "Sir Thomas," I replied, "because 
                                of Krishnamurti, many people are in great distress; 
                                if you'll be gracious enough to enlighten me a 
                                little, perhaps I may be able to enlighten them." "Good!" he exclaimed, "the motive 
                                is pure; your questions will be answered." I began to express my gratitude, but he waved 
                                it aside with a kindly gesture, and proceeded: 
                                "He who attempts to teach Advaita, and omits 
                                all Sanscrit terms, courts failure. Sanscrit words 
                                engender an occult vibration 
                                 
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                            | 138 which is lost when translated. Western words 
                                not suitable to describe subjective states of 
                                consciousness, because their associations are 
                                mainly mundane."  He paused a moment 
                                to continue his lunch, then added: "Well 
                                did my Brother Koot Hoomi say that Krishnamurti 
                                had destroyed all the many stairways to God, while 
                                his own remains incomplete." "And would never be suitable for all 
                                types, in any case," J.M.H. put in. "Also, being incomplete," the old gentleman 
                                took up the thread again, "it may lead to 
                                dangers unforseen by those who attempt to climb 
                                it.  Danger Number One: Krishnamurti's casting 
                                aside of time-honoured definitions and classifications 
                                leaves aspirant without true scale of values. 
                                Danger Number Two: climbing his particular staircase 
                                necessitates constant meditation, which in its 
                                turn necessitates constant protection from Guru--and 
                                Guru not allowed by Krishnamurti." he concluded 
                                with a twinkle. "But" I asked, "is the Guru's 
                                protection always necessary for meditation--I 
                                mean even when its done in small doses?" "0f course, a moderate degree may be practiced 
                                in safety without a Guru." J. M. H. 
                                 
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                            | 139 replied, "but as Sir Thomas says, long continued 
                                meditation leads to states of consciousness and 
                                excursions on to other planes where the Master's 
                                guidance is absolutely indispensable. Another 
                                flaw in this pseudo Advaita which Krishnamurti 
                                is giving out, is that he addresses the personality, 
                                the physical-plane man, as if he were the Monad 
                                or at least the Ego. Of course the Monad, the 
                                divine Spark, is the Absolute Existence-Knowledge-Bliss, 
                                and hence eternally free, but that doesn't mean 
                                that the personality down here, immersed in endless-seeming 
                                karmic difficulties, can share its consciousness, 
                                or even that of the Ego--the link between the 
                                personality and the Monad. Krishnamurti's Advaitism, 
                                which is not to be confounded with the recognized 
                                form of that noble philosophy, will, I fear, lead 
                                his followers nowhere except perhaps to hypocrisy 
                                and self-delusion." Sir Thomas nodded assent." 
                                And while he has directed them to repudiate all 
                                Masters, he refuses to act as Guru to them himself." 
                                The old gentleman was silent for a moment, then 
                                shook his head mournfully. "Children crying 
                                in the night of spiritual darkness, and 
                                 
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                            | 140 no one to comfort them. ... He who could help, 
                                won't, and we who might help, can't, for Doubt 
                                has poisoned their belief in our very existence. 
                                No wonder Koot Hoomi's face looks a little sad." 
                                He turned to the large dog which, all this while, 
                                with remarkable canine self-control, had sat perfectly 
                                still, gazing up at him; and as he patted him, 
                                he said. "My friend, if even the King told 
                                you your master were superfluous, I don't think 
                                you'd believe him, eh!" The dog wagged his tail, and touchingly snuggled 
                                up against Sir Thomas's knee. It was a picture I shall not forget: the oak-panelled 
                                room, the old pictures, the long refectory table, 
                                the sun pouring in through the diamond-paned windows, 
                                and finally that impressive and Lovable old gentleman 
                                in his velvet skull-cap, with his faithful companion 
                                by his side. I was transported back to a world 
                                in which hooting motor-cars, turmoil and rush 
                                seemed but the jarring trivialities of a nightmare. And yet amidst this atmosphere of old-world serenity, 
                                unseen powers were at work, controlling and directing 
                                the schemes of mankind. How honoured I felt that 
                                Sir Thomas had 
                                 
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                            | 141 trusted me sufficiently no longer to conceal 
                                the fact that he was a Master. The manservant had entered to bring the next 
                                course, and had withdrawn again. I noticed that 
                                he never appeared unless summoned by means of 
                                the electric bell-button within reach of Sir Thomas's 
                                hand. Evidently conversation, even at meals, was 
                                frequently of a nature too important to be overheard. I had still some questions to ask about Krishnamurti, 
                                but was momentarily at a loss how to frame them, 
                                without seeming indiscreet. "You'll forgive me," I said to my host, 
                                "if I go back to the subject we were discussing." "What! More questions!" he replied 
                                with mock severity, "you'll be presenting 
                                us with a questionnaire next; well, what are they!" "You'll perhaps remember I asked you if, 
                                Krishnamurti's mission must be regarded as a total 
                                failure." "True, true. A success while still overshadowed 
                                by the World-Teacher, as I implied before--a failure 
                                afterwards. He did good work in teaching people 
                                to use their own 
                                 
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                            | 142 brains, and in showing them ..." He broke 
                                off and waved his hand towards J.M.H. "Come, 
                                come," he said with a twinkle, "this 
                                is your chela and you leave the old gentleman 
                                to do all the work!" "He is in better hands than mine," 
                                said J.M.H., laughing. Nevertheless he continued: 
                                "Krishnamurti came to break up the old order 
                                of things in preparation for the new, but he broke 
                                up too much of the past and prepared nothing for 
                                the future. Yet the old order is finished and 
                                may not be revived. The day of blind obedience 
                                to leaders is over--salvation cannot be reached 
                                merely by worshipping personalities and accepting 
                                as gospel everything they say, for to accept is 
                                not of necessity to understand. Even so exalted 
                                a being as the Lord Buddha said: 'Do not believe 
                                everything merely because I say it.' " "He may be termed a forerunner, needed in 
                                this particular cycle, but not actually the World-Teacher," 
                                Sir Thomas put in; "World-Teacher not expected 
                                by us till end of century." "Yet why should even a forerunner--" 
                                I began. 
                                 
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                            | 143 "Who shall judge another without knowing 
                                his difficulties'' Sir Thomas cut me short. "A 
                                quality has its defects. Need I ask you if you've 
                                ever heard Parsifal! No, for you love music, as 
                                I do. Krishnamurti is endowed with Parsifal-like 
                                simplicity. Because he has reached a certain state 
                                of consciousness and evolution, in his modesty 
                                he fails to see that others have not reached it 
                                likewise. Therefore he prescribes for others what 
                                is only suitable for himself." He rose from 
                                his high-backed chair. "Come," he said 
                                to the dog, "we will take a stroll in the 
                                garden and pay our respects to the daffodils before 
                                my visitor arrives. At four in the library," 
                                he added to J. M. H. and went out.     
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